Draft stages: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.0 Daniel: >Advanced educational uses of Cyberspace: How can we design and >implement innovative learning systems on the Internet and particularly >on the WWW and in MUDs? Areas covered: Interactive many-user >collaborative learning environments; Intelligent agents on the net and >over the net; Adaptive information systems. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.1 Jeni: All the hyped catch phrases there ;) Why use Cyberspace rather than 'The Internet'? Also, I'd suggest using 'effective' or 'beneficial' rather than 'innovative' (which just suggests something new and exciting rather than something that actually is good for anything to me). And 'multiuser' rather than 'many-user'. Apart from that, it looks super to me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.2 Paolo: My (somewhat verbose) pennies: 1 While I also have reservations against the term 'Cyberspace', I'd think that 'The Internet' could in turn be too restrictive (I am thinking of projects such as e.g. "Zircus" (MERL) and similar 'Habitat-derived' efforts, the infamous Bob on the Microsoft Network, or training programmes on private/corporate networks...). Then again, the original working session 14 clearly confines the topic to 'just the Internet' ("What does AI research have to contribute to educational users of the Internet and WWW"). So what _is_ the intended scope of this session? 2 I guess we all agree on the 'effective'... 3 Assuming the 'The Internet' is not mentioned in the first phrase, it could stay in the 2nd phrase, with an 'e.g.' tacked on front. As for the 'interactive many-user': aren't BOTH adjectives already implied by the 'collaborative learning environments' (i.e. how could they be otherwise?) - then again, maybe for 'marketing/ advertising' reasons it might be a good idea to keep 'interactive multiuser'... 4 How about inserting a sentence in front of the 'e.g. on the Internet, ...WWW...MUD' mentioning something like 'support for higher levels of learning' (the learning taxonomy (?)), such as problem solving (vs. reproduction of knowledge) 5 The conference title is on _learning_ systems design: While "education" doubtlessly is an important area, I wonder if we should not also mention the area of "training" in the description of the working session (or 'just-in-time learning' - i.e. "catch phrases for industry")? (This question is similar to #1, as the draft announcement text again explicitly mentions "educational users"...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeni 2.0 >My (somewhat verbose) pennies: > >1 While I also have reservations against the term 'Cyberspace', I'd > think that 'The Internet' could in turn be too restrictive (I am > thinking of projects such as e.g. "Zircus" (MERL) and similar > 'Habitat-derived' efforts, the infamous Bob on the Microsoft > Network, or training programmes on private/corporate networks...). > Then again, the original working session 14 clearly confines the > topic to 'just the Internet' ("What does AI research have to > contribute to educational users of the Internet and WWW"). > > So what _is_ the intended scope of this session? It seems we're focussing somewhere in the range that flows from 'computers' through 'computer networks' through 'the internet' to 'the WWW'. 'The WWW' is clearly too restrictive since we want to talk about MOOs, and 'computers' far too general. Perhaps 'computer networks'? >3 Assuming the 'The Internet' is not mentioned in the first phrase, it > could stay in the 2nd phrase, with an 'e.g.' tacked on front. As > for the 'interactive many-user': aren't BOTH adjectives already > implied by the 'collaborative learning environments' (i.e. how > could they be otherwise?) - then again, maybe for 'marketing/ > advertising' reasons it might be a good idea to keep > 'interactive multiuser'... What about changing the 'Adaptive information systems' to 'Interactive multiuser information systems', that way retaining the advertising pull of 'interactive multiuser' while avoiding the otherwise tautological phrase? >5 The conference title is on _learning_ systems design: While > "education" doubtlessly is an important area, I wonder if we should > not also mention the area of "training" in the description of the > working session (or 'just-in-time learning' - i.e. "catch phrases > for industry")? > (This question is similar to #1, as the draft announcement text > again explicitly mentions "educational users"...) I agree. I think it's probably outside the remit of the conference, but 'interactive multiuser information systems' could also support learning by organisations: corporate knowledge being kept for future use by new members rather than being lost when employees leave. This is done by supporting learning while work is undertaken rather than during a specific training period. I don't know if this is what is meant by 'just-in-time learning', since I'm still unsure about that phrase. Trying to bring some of these comments together, we get this rather muddled summary, which still doesn't include all the aspects we've mentioned: ------------------- Advanced educational uses of computer networks: Effective learning systems need to support the higher levels of learning, such as problem solving. How can we design and implement such systems on, for example, the Internet, and particularly on the WWW and in MUDs? Areas covered: Collaborative learning environments; Intelligent agents on the net and over the net; Interactive multiuser information systems. ------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------