C3MS and education: Impact of TecfaSEED

• Here are few pointers (incl. quotes) that point to our work and to the "C3MS" framework in particular.
• Our own papers available over the Internet are here. Note: Some copies of slides for talks and papers also float around in other places on the Internet.
• Note: URLs are shown "open", because they give some information on where and who which is useful in this particular context.

1. Global search results and overview of results  

• On october 12 2004 on Google:
  1. 1900 hits "c3ms" on Google (this includes pages from our own servers, a few hundred uninteresting links, e.g. PostNuke-related blurbs, and some chemistry). However, within the rest there a quite a few interesting links.
  2. "C3MS+education" gets 380 hits (Tecfa included)
  3. "tecfa+seed+catalog" gets 795 hits (a lot uninteresting)
• The most interesting result of this search was to find quite a number of interesting weblogs, wikis (and other dynamic collaborative sites) about educational technology and related fields. Internet is alive again !

2. Entries on education and that mention the C3S word and/or our work  

• Vers les C3MS: http://edu.ca.edu/article22.html: Small description: C3MS= "Communautary Collaborative Content Management System"
• Community, Content and Collaboration Management Systems: Finally, someone gets it!http://homepage.mac.com/john_kruper/iblog/B905739295/C1776019690/E1594129702/ Quote: "The reference may be a bit dated, but the idea certainly isn't. Put simply, in "Community, Content & Collaboration Management Systems, Socio-Constructivist Scenarios for the Masses?" (PDF) Daniel K. Schneider "gets it." See the following figure from his EdMedia 2002 short paper for a prescient diagram of how "1st generation" LCMS engines like Blackboard, eCollege, and WebCT will be usurped by the Moodles, Plones, Xarayas, Drupals, (and yes, even the Ellis Community Learning Platforms) of the world."
• Unfrisierte Gedanken, Blog entry (announcement of a book chapter) http://blog.marcokalz.de/index.php?cat=29
• Community, Collaboration, Content Management System, a few definitions: http://idefix.gymliestal.ch:8888/mediendidaktik2/96
• ContentManagementSystems in EdTech Wiki: http://edtech.coedit.net/ContentManagementSystem Ref to our work, Quote: "Daniel Schneider and others at TECFA at the University of Geneva are exploring learning with newer and more complex ContentManagementSystems like Postnuke and Drupal (actually they call them Community, Content and Collaboration Management Systems - C3MS)."
• WikiCookbook. Here are some different ways wikis might be used in classroom or informal learning contexts. http://wikiguide.coedit.net/WikiCookbook Quote: "TECFA SEED project catalog - similar to above catalog but expanded to include next generation ContentManagementSystems and LearningManagementSystems."
• Internet Time Blog: Peering into the Crystal Ball. http://www.internettime.com/blog/archives/001008.html Quote: "Another gem is Daniel Schneider's Conception and implementation of rich pedagogical scenarios through collaborative portal sites, although as the title alone tips you off, this one's quite academic in tone. ..." (via edTechPost)
• 2003-9-27 - KairosNews: Pedagogical scenarios with portals (draft chapter) - Posted by us, but with a comment. http://kairosnews.org/node/view/3375. This short posting found its way to other portals and blogs (e.g. above) and it demonstrates what a single post on a quality collective weblog like KairosNews can do. So, here are some followups on this:
  • 2003-10-22 EdTechPost: Draft paper on using community software for rich constructivist education http://www.edtechpost.ca/mt/archive/000406.html. Quote: "his 39 page paper (draft 1.5) by Daniel Schneider is well worth the effort. On top of the ton of good thinking on why traditional CMS don't suffice and what roles the instructor might play within different pedagogical designs, the paper was worthwhile simply for introducing (at least to me) the term "Community, Content and Collaboration Management Systems" (C3MS) to describe packages such as Plone, PostNuke and Drupal. As the author notes, these are often discussed as 'content management systems' but this term belies much of their true nature as collaborative and community-building content management systems. " (via KairosNews). Since this is a very popular blog, one can find syndicated copies of this on several other blogs.
  • http://www.thedesignexperience.org/weblog/archive/2003/10/ Quote: " Right now I am looking at Draft chapter: Conception and implementation of rich pedagogical scenarios through collaborative portals sites where the term C3MS is introduced. This stands for "Community, Content and Collaboration Management Systems." This is a concept I can relate to. It is exactly the type of system I would like to work on using OpenACS and dotLRN. Once I finish reading the paper, I hope to have some intelligent comments. The original link was at Kairosnews, a collabortive weblog about technology and learning with some very interesting posts." (via EdTechPost)
  • Bruce Landon's Weblog for Students: http://radio.weblogs.com/0101747/2003/10/22.html#a2538 (same as above, via KairosNews)
  • DesignPattern: http://developers.coedit.net/DesignPattern. Contains an Entry for the TecfaSEED Catalog.
  • eLearning Entrepreneur: http://radio.weblogs.com/0110222/categories/elearning/2003/10/22.html. (via KairosNews)"
• http://www.educa.ch/dyn/bin/107117-107929-1-educanet2_franz.pdf (Slides for a talk) Quote: "Community, content and collaboration management system (D. Schneider)" in relation with a picture of the educa server.
• NSDL Evaluating Educational Impact Workshop: http://eduimpact.comm.nsdl.org/evalworkshop/Session-3-community.php Quote: "Daniel Schneider C3MS (Communication, Collaboration, Content and Management System). NSDL is very good on the content management. But the communication and collaboration part is not a part of the main objectives. It is sort of an after thought and may only be going on in the individual projects."
• 2002-4-08 http://radio.weblogs.com/0105023/ Probablement la première référence à notre travail: Quote: "Système de gestion de contenu communautaire et collaboratif (C3MS)." The same author (André Vincent) made other postings.
• 2002-10-5 http://andre.monblogue.com/main.php André Vincent, Quote: " [...]" c'est présentement l'approche où les experts et spécialistes se livrent la lutte la plus vive se départageant entre les partisans de la marchandisation de l'éducation et les partisans d'une éducation publique, accessible, ouverte et démocratique ; entre les partisans d'une technologie propriétaire et marchande, à architecture et contenu fermé (LMS - Learning Management System ou Course Management System) et les partisans d'une technologie à architecture et contenu ouvert, accessible, communautaire, publique et collaboratif (C3MS)."
• http://www.ac-rennes.fr/tic/glossaire/Lexique.htm, Travail collaboratif - Collecticiels - Formation à distance .. : proposition de glossaire. Quote: " La notion de portail communautaire vue par le TECFA (technologies de formation et apprentissages - Universtié de Genève), les nouveaux portails communautaires de type "community, collaboration and content management" (C3MS) : http://tecfa.unige.ch/tecfa/teaching/formcont/webmaster2002/tie/html/portal-edu-intro/portal-edu-intro.html".
• http://surfusion.de/discuss/msgReader$27Surfusion: Observingthe tidals of elearning and educational technology. Quote: "I support the use of open-source-software for elearning, because i like the idea of sharing and i hope that the use of these systems is a chance to get away from technocentric elearning strategies. In this context I refer to the C3MS-model (pdf, 62 kb) from Daniel Schneider (Tecfa), which is based on socio-constructivist learning scenarios. What do we need for eLearning? We need content, we need a community and we need collaboration! I think these aspects can be fullfiled by many open-source-system in combination with a good didactical concept".
• http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=3758 The "Moodle" community shows their interest and point to some of our URLs. Moodle is the best flexible educational platform. The only one I'd use besides non-educational community portals, wikis and alike.
• http://cotte.joueb.com/news/146.shtml "L'excellent projet SEED" (par C. Bournon, une ancienne étudiante / enseignante, enfin quand-meme intéressant puisque personne ne l'oblige de le dire ....)

3. On the reading list of a course  

• http://www.upmf-grenoble.fr/sciedu/pdessus/ue28.html Philippe Dessus, Instruments cognitifs d'assistance à l'enseignement, Page du cours de l'U.E. 28 "Technologie et connaissance" Master 2 EAMS Sciences de l'éducation.
• http://www.lis.uiuc.edu/~haythorn/proseminar_schedule.html C. Haythornthwaite, GSLIS Proseminar/Reading Group: Spring 2004

4. References to C3MS and Community portals (for teachers mostly)  

• http://www.eatg.org/download/forward.pdf Quote: 2[...]" The new Website has moved from a static system to a dynamic Content and Collaborative Management System (C3MS) managed directly by the Community. It allows the EATG community to manage a daily traffic of information in real time. It features a multilingual, community-driven, collaborative platform, and facilitates the EATG working groups making their activities more visible through the net."

5. Articles or talks that mention C3MS and education  

• The "Hagen Connection":
  • Peter Baumgartner & Marco Kalz, Content Management Systeme aus bildungstechnologischer Sicht, IN Baumgartner, Peter; Häfele, Hartmut & Maier-Häfele, Kornelia: Content Management Systeme für die Bildung: Auswahl, Potenziale und Einsatzmöglichkeiten. Studienverlag, Innsbruck 2004. On-line draft: http://www.bildungstechnologie.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=getit&lid=14.
    This piece had quite an impact in the "German on-line scene" Pointers and short comments to this article can be found on several German educational technology sites (portals and individual blogs). Below, there are related talks, abstracts and papers:
  • Marco Kalz ??? http://bt-mac2.fernuni-hagen.de/peter/gems/SlidesEurocall2004.pdf
  • http://bt-mac2.fernuni-hagen.de/peter/gems/HamburgBW2004.pdfA Peter Baumgartner talk in German
  • Marco Kalz; M.A., Aufbau und Pflege von virtuellen Gemeinschaften mit C3MS, FernUniversität Hagen, Lehhrgebiet Bildungstechnologie (Abstract for a talk at Herbsttagung der Kommission Medienpädagogik der Deutschen Gesellschaft für Erziehungswissenschaft (DGFE), Duisburg 4-5 nov 2004., URL: http://blog.marcokalz.de/media/Aufbau%20und%20Pflege%20von%20virtuellen%20Gemeinschaften%20mit%20C3MS.pdf
  • bt-mac2.fernuni-hagen.de/ peter/gems/zenartofteaching.pdf Peter Baumgartner, FernUniversitaet in Hagen. The Zen Art of Teaching Communication and Interactions in eEducation
• The Illinois connection (there are probably more articles than the ones below).
  • http://www.cna.org.uk/conference/proceedings/docs/Ann%20Bishop%20et%20al.pdfThe Community Inquiry Lab Collaborative, Community Inquiry Labs as Effective Community Informatics Tools Graduate School of Library and Information Science University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign , paper presented by Ann Bishop and Chip Bruce, Building & Bridging Community Networks: Knowledge, Innovation & Diversity through Communication, Brighton, March 2004.
  • Ann Peterson Bishop, Bertram C. Bruce, Karen J. Lunsford*, M. Cameron Jones, Muzhgan Nazarova, David Linderman, Mihye Won, P. Bryan Heidorn, Rajeev Ramprakash and André Brock,Supporting Community Inquiry with Digital Resources, Journal of Digital Information, Volume 5 Issue 3 Article No. 308, 2004-08-24
• Kristöfl, R. Evaluation von Lernplattformen: Verfahren, Ergebnisse & Empfehlungen, Bildung.at, das österreichische Bildungsportal, (im Auftrag vom Bundesministerium für Bildung, Wissenschaft und Kultur. http://www.bildung.at/filedb/lernplattformen_evaluation_und_ergebnisse.pdf (retrieved: oct 12 2004).
• Muzhgan Nazarova, Ann Peterson Bishop, Bertram C. Bruce, ommunities of Inquiry: A Shift to Inquiry-Based Learning in LIS Education http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~chip/show/cil/ALISEfinal.ppt talk (PPT Slides) Quote: " Community, Content and Collaboration Management Systems (C3MS) ... C3MS consist of a collection of objects called information bricks and services - operation on these bricks that can be accessed from a portal." Other, similar talks float around.
• http://www.ikaras.org/eLearningTheSystemPostNuke0712.pdf eLearning and PostNuke article that cites our work (in Greek). (published in some conference proceedings)
• Marie-Laure Betbeder1 and Pierre Tchounikine1, Symba: A Tailorable Framework to Support Collective Activities in a Learning Context, Groupware: Design, Implementation, and Use, 90-98http://www.springerlink.com/app/home/contribution.asp?wasp=pgwf2q5qyn3kphe1hjf3&referrer=parent&backto=issue,8,31;journal,367,1714;linkingpublicationresults,1:105633,1 Quote: "For instance, Symba is a possi- ble way to operationalize collective activities designed from the Tecfa seed catalog ..."

6. Technical webpages and products  

• PostNuke: Quote: "PostNuke is a community, content, collaborative management system, a C3MS" Note: Since this definition is given on the PostNuke site, it can be found on many other sites including vendors of commercial products. Variants of C3MS are: "Community, Content, and Collaborative Management System". Personally, I have a hard time imaging what a "collaborative management system" in this precise context could mean :)
• MillenniuM Home PAge Product, C3MS= "Communicate, Collaborate & Coordinate Management System2: http://www.mill-is.com/Products/c3ms.htm.
• http://globalone.susoft.no/susoft/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=46 Quote: "Global One Portal is so much more than a portal, it is three solutions in one, a so called C3MS solution - content, community, and collaborative management system"
• Postnuke Portal Software: Community, Content, and Collaborative Management System http://pal.lternet.edu/biblio/2004/04spring_databits/04spring_feature.pdf Quote: "Postnuke, a web software application toolkit, is a community, content, and collaborative management system (C3MS)."

7. People  

• Peter Baumgartner, Professor in educational technology at Fernuniversität Hagen (personal blog: http://www.peter.baumgartner.name/) and even more Marco Kalz (active on http://www.edunuke.org/ and http://blog.marcokalz.de/ and http://bildungstechnologie.net/ had quite an impact in Germany with their analysis of the various interactive Internet technologies's potential for education. Regarding C3MS they refer to our work.
• Alain Deyricke, Prof., director of NOCE.
• "Chip" Bruce